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The Digester

Broadly agree -- the doctrine of free speech is about balance between allowing someone to make a serious point even if that means offending others. These cartoons certainly caused offence, what was on the other side of the scales? Why were they drawn and why were they then republished months later? The latter act was certainly delibrately inflammatory, and flames were what we got.

laban

"Why were they drawn and why were they then republished months later ?"

They were drawn after a Danish author told the editor that all the illustrators he approached about his children's book on Mohammed were too scared to take up the commission.

They were reprinted after a violent and racist campaign against all things Danish. Which rather proved the author's point.

I don't think they were terribly good either, but I think all the Brit press should have published them.

And with respect, I think all that stuff about 'the heritage they draw on' and the Oriental 'other' is a load of nonsense - and a cop-out. Have you seen any ? The one about the 72 virgins is more in the tradition of Andy Capp than der Sturmer. If you want to see stuff like that, go to Middle Eastern media.


laban

PS Scott McLellan is just trying to get out of the firing line - a mistake IMHO. He should have stood by the Europeans although they didn't stand by America. Hang together rather than seperately.

I'm waiting now for the metaphorical explosion about the sculpture of mohammed on the Supreme Court building.

dearieme

The demo in London must have done so much damage to many people's opinions on Islam that I'm just waiting for someone to blame the demo on ze Chews.

Third Avenue

Laban - we will have to differ on this one. Yes, I have seen the cartoons. They are a mixed bunch - but it's hard to see them as anything other than racist in the classic mode of the Jewish cartoons that disgraced the European press not so long ago, and indeed that continue to pollute the Arab media. But that many Arab newspapers show disgusting racist filth is no excuse for Europe to follow suit. On the contrary.

That said, I am absolutely of the opinion that religion should be lampooned, and that this is a great part of the European tradition. Islam deserves no greater protection than any other religion.

Laban Tall

"it's hard to see them as anything other than racist in the classic mode of the Jewish cartoons that disgraced the European press not so long ago"

Oh no it isn't.

"But that many Arab newspapers show disgusting racist filth is no excuse for Europe to follow suit"

disgusting racist filth, eh ? Are you sure you're not thinking about the pig/dog/demon images, all fakes ?

http://egyptiansandmonkey.blogspot.com/2006/02/boycott-egypt.html

Third Avenue

Laban - I agree that we disagree! My reasons for seeing these cartoons as basically racist are: they (and I do mean the ones shown in the Danish paper) take an image that draws on the stock stereotyped characteristics of a particular group - glowering eyes, prominent nose, large beard - and then derive their humour from that, and *not* from satire of religion. They're not all like that - but most of them are. And in that sense they are in the tradition of anti-semitic cartoons. Hook-nosed bankers sucking the life-blood out of pure Europe. Those cartoons were not a satire on the professional practices of some Jews - they were just plain anti-semitic.

But I condemn utterly the 'butcher those who slander Islam' reaction, which is vile.

The Digester

The cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb secreted in his turban sent out a clear message -- Islam (in all forms) can be equated with terrorism. I can't think of a more provocative piece of rhetoric in the current climate.

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