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Katie

Quite right. It is often overlooked that the trente cinq refers to a very specific, generally more disadvantaged, and, here's the kicker, dwindling portion of French working society.

You mention in passing the increase in holiday time for french cadres...I know many people relatively junior in their organisation, who, as a combination of RTC and overtime, come to 12 weeks of holiday a year. Surely THAT is what is harmful? Positions lying empty for 8-12 weeks every year? At least with maternity leave people are replaced...

Meaders

How on earth can 12 weeks of holiday be considered "harmful"? This is fantastic!

Third Avenue

12 weeks holidays would of course be fab. In my experience, though, they are still very uncommon in France. Six or seven weeks is more common, which is very nice but doesn't really make up for the horrendously long hours you're expected to put in when you are at work.

Katie

I don't mean for the individual. It is indeed jolly nice. I meant for the welfare of the company, which has a position unfilled for a fair portion of the year. My friend, it is true, has to work about 70 hours a week when he is not on holiday. This is why he rarely brings his expertise to bear on the pub quiz.

That said, I think the US paid holiday time is barbaric...three years at a company and you might still be on two weeks.

Third Avenue

Katie - sorry, I didn't mean to contradict you. Of course, the US two-week option is hardly a model either. Maybe the British middle way?... Better still, a combination of French holidays, and 9-5 UK working hours. That would make for a very happy population..

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